Post by Candyman on Jul 20, 2008 0:04:33 GMT -8
Hey Terry,
I am still working on things, but wanted to throw some more ideas, and thoughts into the mix for you.
I know from your previous posts that you have been thinking about changing up your Flame Scheme with Color Shifting Flames in pretty much the same design you have now, with real fire flames under neath to give it a cool 3d effect.
With this in mind, I kind of wanted to give you some of my thoughts on a few ideas on custom flames for you to maybe kick around a bit. Please keep in mind that these are just some thoughts, and ideas based on my own experiences, and everyones taste is different. These ideas are only intended to help guide you in a few new directions, and open up new possibilities! With this said, lets get started!
Now, I remember in the first part of your plans was to redo either the same, or a similar layout of Flames, much like you have now, but possibly use color shifting paint. While this is a cool effect, the Chrome illusion paint is very expensive ( last I heard, somewhere around $5000.00 a gallon) Then, in the second part of your project, you were kicking around the possibility of doing True Fire Flames under the overlaying color shifting flames. While I have never seen a Flame Job done in that manner, If it were me, I might be a little concerned with their maybe being a little too much going on, and when you factor in the strong possibility of a custom job like that brining a realistic cost of somewhere in the neighborhood of between $8000,00 to $10,000, you really don't want to get it wrong, and end up with something your not 100% happy with!
When you look at legendary automotive designers, and customizers like Chip Fooze, Troy Trepanier, and may others, they usually look towards presenting as clean of design as possible!! If Flames are incorporated into a design, they usually will take a regular Flame Design, and then tweak that into something amazing, and it is cars that utilize thiese kinds of ideas that gets the most attention! Lets look at some different examples.
1. To start off with, lets re-visit mine again. Due to my budget, I kept things simple by just doing a traditional Flame layout using a black base, and then streaking the inlays with gold, copper, silver, and gunmetal gray ice pearl, which gave it a unique color shifting look, but for a fration of the cost! I also knew that eventually I plan to shave the door handles, and replace the grille, and front end with an aftermarket, or custom unit, so we were very careful to lay out the Flames to avoid these areas, thus making it much easier to blend back into the orange paint, rather than try to match up the custom graphics. The last things we did to mine where to add a hand pin stripe throughout the entire layout, and then finish off with a maroon drop shadow to give it the illusion of being lifted off of the paint. Here is a photo:
2. Here is a very cool look usin red with a moderate amount of micro metal flake, a very heavy use o a drop shadow, and a white outline, with soecific emphasis to the upper edge in order to make the flames look like they are 3 dimentional, and lifted off of the paint, but thanks to that heavy shoddow, and choice of color, the flames have a very nice look to them! Here is a Photo:
3. Yet anothe 3 dimention Flame Job, but using white highlights, along with some very clever shadows, and color touches using an air brush, and not only were they able to pull off a cool lokking metalic feel, but also able to give it a 3 D gel look! Here is a Photo:
4. This one is quite possibly one of my most favorite F;ame Jobs of all time! Unfortunately this car was recently disassembled inorder to update the vehicle, and the owner lost interest, so much of the Paint was los to unfinished body work! As I had mentioned before in my other Post,s, this Flame job is actually an optical illusion. The black flames are actually stock black paint that was backmasked, and the gold uderlying flmaes were actually shot in between the masked off sections, giving the illusion that their are two sets of overlapping flames instead of their only being one! zhere is a Photo:
5. Last, but not least, you can choose to add custom graphics to enhance your flames to add depth, and really make people take notice! Here are two good examples. The first one is of a skull, and is one of my ideas I am playing with adding to my Flames sometime done the road! The Second is of our good friend Poi's PT. He is native Hawaiian, and has a Tiki theme throughout his PT including several individual Tiki Heads painted throughout his blue Tribal Flames! Here are a couple of Photos:
And, though I am still working on sketching out your ride to play around with, here are a couple of things I have got so far. Please keep in mind, their not done by a long ways, but its coming along!
Take it easy!
Candyman
I am still working on things, but wanted to throw some more ideas, and thoughts into the mix for you.
I know from your previous posts that you have been thinking about changing up your Flame Scheme with Color Shifting Flames in pretty much the same design you have now, with real fire flames under neath to give it a cool 3d effect.
With this in mind, I kind of wanted to give you some of my thoughts on a few ideas on custom flames for you to maybe kick around a bit. Please keep in mind that these are just some thoughts, and ideas based on my own experiences, and everyones taste is different. These ideas are only intended to help guide you in a few new directions, and open up new possibilities! With this said, lets get started!
Now, I remember in the first part of your plans was to redo either the same, or a similar layout of Flames, much like you have now, but possibly use color shifting paint. While this is a cool effect, the Chrome illusion paint is very expensive ( last I heard, somewhere around $5000.00 a gallon) Then, in the second part of your project, you were kicking around the possibility of doing True Fire Flames under the overlaying color shifting flames. While I have never seen a Flame Job done in that manner, If it were me, I might be a little concerned with their maybe being a little too much going on, and when you factor in the strong possibility of a custom job like that brining a realistic cost of somewhere in the neighborhood of between $8000,00 to $10,000, you really don't want to get it wrong, and end up with something your not 100% happy with!
When you look at legendary automotive designers, and customizers like Chip Fooze, Troy Trepanier, and may others, they usually look towards presenting as clean of design as possible!! If Flames are incorporated into a design, they usually will take a regular Flame Design, and then tweak that into something amazing, and it is cars that utilize thiese kinds of ideas that gets the most attention! Lets look at some different examples.
1. To start off with, lets re-visit mine again. Due to my budget, I kept things simple by just doing a traditional Flame layout using a black base, and then streaking the inlays with gold, copper, silver, and gunmetal gray ice pearl, which gave it a unique color shifting look, but for a fration of the cost! I also knew that eventually I plan to shave the door handles, and replace the grille, and front end with an aftermarket, or custom unit, so we were very careful to lay out the Flames to avoid these areas, thus making it much easier to blend back into the orange paint, rather than try to match up the custom graphics. The last things we did to mine where to add a hand pin stripe throughout the entire layout, and then finish off with a maroon drop shadow to give it the illusion of being lifted off of the paint. Here is a photo:
2. Here is a very cool look usin red with a moderate amount of micro metal flake, a very heavy use o a drop shadow, and a white outline, with soecific emphasis to the upper edge in order to make the flames look like they are 3 dimentional, and lifted off of the paint, but thanks to that heavy shoddow, and choice of color, the flames have a very nice look to them! Here is a Photo:
3. Yet anothe 3 dimention Flame Job, but using white highlights, along with some very clever shadows, and color touches using an air brush, and not only were they able to pull off a cool lokking metalic feel, but also able to give it a 3 D gel look! Here is a Photo:
4. This one is quite possibly one of my most favorite F;ame Jobs of all time! Unfortunately this car was recently disassembled inorder to update the vehicle, and the owner lost interest, so much of the Paint was los to unfinished body work! As I had mentioned before in my other Post,s, this Flame job is actually an optical illusion. The black flames are actually stock black paint that was backmasked, and the gold uderlying flmaes were actually shot in between the masked off sections, giving the illusion that their are two sets of overlapping flames instead of their only being one! zhere is a Photo:
5. Last, but not least, you can choose to add custom graphics to enhance your flames to add depth, and really make people take notice! Here are two good examples. The first one is of a skull, and is one of my ideas I am playing with adding to my Flames sometime done the road! The Second is of our good friend Poi's PT. He is native Hawaiian, and has a Tiki theme throughout his PT including several individual Tiki Heads painted throughout his blue Tribal Flames! Here are a couple of Photos:
And, though I am still working on sketching out your ride to play around with, here are a couple of things I have got so far. Please keep in mind, their not done by a long ways, but its coming along!
Take it easy!
Candyman
Oh by the way thank you so much for the drawings those are great. 